Return-Path: donrich@ssi.media3.net Received: from ssi.media3.net ([208.249.121.1]) by home.albury.net.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA18130 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:06:07 +1000 (EST) Received: (from donrich@localhost) by ssi.media3.net (8.9.0/8.9.2) id TAA05037; Fri, 9 Apr 1999 19:51:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <370E928D.866BC9D0@ix.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 09 Apr 1999 16:51:41 -0700 From: Dan Slater Reply-To: dslater@ix.netcom.com Organization: NSI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: vr-issues References: <370D1007.969822C8@fh-furtwangen.de> <370D4D01.84BEF20F@ix.netcom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Loop: list-request@navmark.com Subject: [VR]: Re: IPIX against Panorama_Tools X-Mailing-List: vr-issues@navmark.com X-UIDL: fb7c60fab3bfd101457c7661e08cabe1 I was really quite stunned to hear of low class harassment of Helmut Dersch by the IPIX lawyers. Helmut has been one of the most imaginative, generous and creative members of the panoramic imaging and VR community. His development of Panorama Tools showed many that high quality image warping was possible. He gave this program freely to the panoramic / VR community. His other invention of micropanoramic imaging methods has been an inspiration to other of my own work. In the past, IPIX (then Omniview) had queried me for technical details about my own fisheye lens based Spherecam system ( http://www.nearfield.com/spherecam/ ). They found it quite interesting and were interested in building one of their own. Back then, I gladly sent them detailed photos and sample images for them to process, in addition to answering a variety of technical questions. I believe that they have since built both still and video versions of this. Later when they changed management and became IPIX, there seemed to be a major shift in philosophy. They have become quite litigious and have successfully sued and/or threatened a number of companies including Infinite Pictures, Live Picture and apparently others. With their legal attack on Helmut it appears that this continues to remain their business philosophy. I obviously regret the help I gave them way back when. IPIX seems to be a company that only takes but never gives. I believe that their prior lawsuits and threats against others were centered around their patents. IPIX US patents include: 5,313,306, 5,185,667, and at least two others. Some of their claims are quite broad, suggesting that any geometric remapping of a fisheye image is their invention. There is considerable prior art that would seem to invalidate these broad IPIX claims. Variations of fisheye image geometric remapping type systems have been used in aerospace, aerial photography, submarine periscopes, flight simulation, planetarium projection, etc. As an example, one system from the early 1970,s used a 6 mm Nikon fisheye lens in a F-111 aircraft to view wing extension simultaneously on both sides of the aircraft while also providing star image data. Two particularly relevant prior art references that would appear to completely invalidate the broad IPIX patent claims include: Ripley, D., DVI - A Digital Multimedia Technology, Communications of the ACM, Volume 32 Number 7 (July 1989) This paper describes an interactive computer based system that dynamically extracts perspective corrected views from images filmed with a Nikon 220° fisheye lens. Lippman, A., Movie Maps: An Application of the Optical Video Disc to Computer Graphics, Siggraph Conference Proceedings (1980) This second paper describes an early VR system that used either a set of 4 cameras or a single donut image camera that captured the complete road system in a small town. The viewer could travel down any of the roads in several different seasons and see perspective corrected views. The single camera system could use either the Nikon 6 mm f2.8 fisheye lens or the Kern Peri Apollar lens to record a full 360 degree horizontal view. Ripley (the author of the 1st paper) is a principle of Infinite Pictures that was sued by IPIX for patent infringment and lost with a million dollar judgement against him. To this day, I don't understand why, as both of these papers clearly describe prior art of undistorting fisheye images to extract "perspective corrected" views, etc. >From reading the letters that Helmut posted on his web site, it is quite apparent that the IPIX lawyers are interested in harassing him. If they are accusing him of copyright infringment, why would they want him to eliminate PanTools, the PanTools FAQ, etc. The IPIX file format is proprietary and unpublished but PanTools does not use it in any way whatsoever so there can not be an issue here. I don’t know the IPIX patent status in Germany but I would guess that it is not patented there. My guess is that IPIX does not like that Helmut’s Pan Tools can do high quality geometric image processing of fisheye images so they are harassing him in a 3rd country (England) via these other charges. Maybe next IPIX will go after Adobe Photoshop, followed by map making in general. Map makers have been warping fisheye (f theta) and other distorted images of the Earth to many other image formats for centuries. I really wish Helmut the best of luck and hope that he continues with his excellent ideas and software. Dan Slater (dslater@ix.netcom.com) ____________________________________________________________________ To change your subscription or to review the policies of this list, please see the form located at: http://www.navmark.com/vr-issues/ Archives of recent digests are located at http://www.navmark.com/archive/vr-issues/ For help with technical issues regarding QuickTime VR, please subscribe to the QuickTime VR mailing list at http://www.lists.apple.com/quicktime-VR.html